Monday, March 20, 2017

The Security State -- Trump -- and 'a debate'?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/19/us/politics/trump-wiretap-accusations-privacy-debate.html

From the article....


Yet Ms. Goitein, who has no sympathy for Mr. Trump’s policies, believes his clumsy comments on wiretapping, even if not true, should be an opening for a broader discussion of government surveillance and American privacy. She is among the civil libertarians who believe Mr. Trump’s critics have been too quick to dismiss the real possibility that the National Security Agency or F.B.I. might actually have picked up Trump campaign communications under eavesdropping rules that civil libertarians see as too permissive.
Intentionally or otherwise, Mr. Trump has rejuvenated the debate over the proper balance of privacy and security that surfaced after Edward Snowden’s disclosures about N.S.A. programs in 2013. When the libertarian Senator Rand Paul, Republican of Kentucky, used the Trump claims to suggest a broader concern about privacy, Glenn Greenwald, a left-wing writer for the online publication The Intercept, backed him up in a column titled “Rand Paul Is Right.”
“Paul’s explanation is absolutely correct,” Mr. Greenwald wrote. He said that the National Security Agency “is empowered to spy on Americans’ communications without a warrant,” calling current procedures a violation of the Fourth Amendment and “the dirty little secret of the U.S. Surveillance State.”
What these odd political bedfellows were pointing out is a truism inside the intelligence world but less understood outside it: When the National Security Agency or the F.B.I. eavesdrop on foreigners’ communications, they often pick up the Americans who are talking to them. National Security Agency and F.B.I. officials call this “incidental” collection, but it can have serious consequences.
It appears that such incidental collection, for instance, decided the fate of Michael T. Flynn, who stepped down as national security adviser after he was picked up talking to the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak, and lied about the conversations.
The volume of communications available for searching can be mind-boggling. In 2011, the National Security Agency collected and stored 250 million internet communications from a single program, known as Section 702, according to a report from the government’s Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board. In 2015, the same program targeted more than 94,000 foreigners — and carried out more than 23,000 searches of its data for “U.S. persons,” meaning citizens or permanent residents. Many Americans inevitably turn up in the data, either because they are communicating with a foreigner or are mentioned in a foreigner’s messages. '

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   As we know only Bad people have to worry about all this because our Government is here to defend Good people.

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